In this episode, I chat with Natalie Monbiot, a founder and tech entrepreneur who speaks from her expertise from building one of the first AI avatar companies in the world, coining the term ‘virtual human economy.’ Natalie presents a fairly different outlook on AI technologies compared to many of the other guests I’ve had on this podcast. As someone who spends most of her time with criticisms of corporate tech and negative projections of AI’s impact on creative work and human ownership, I find this conversation especially important in learning about other perspectives on the areas of opportunity, work, compensation, and the future. In this episode, Natalie explains the technology behind digital cloning, what these clones – or digital twins – are often used for, and shares some visions of a world in everyone gets fair pay for their own virtual human doppelgangers. I hope you listen and enjoy. Love, Julia!