Jon grew up believing he was safe in the house of God, until he discovered that belonging in his church came with conditions.

In this episode, Jon shares the story of how he was pushed out of the evangelical world he once called home simply because he dared to explore and personalize his faith. For asking questions. For challenging contradictions. For believing that a place meant to connect people with God should not be the same place that tears families apart.

His journey took him somewhere he never expected: to the realization that many of the things he was taught were “Christian truths” - like heaven, hell, the rapture, even the Holy Trinity - aren’t actually in the Bible the way he was told. And neither is the idea that queer people are sinners.

Jon’s faith didn’t die when he left the church. It widened.

And it led him to one of the biggest decisions of his life: he and his wife refused to get married until same-sex couples could. Because he couldn’t build a life on a foundation he knew wasn’t equal.

This conversation is about unlearning fear, reclaiming spiritual autonomy, and discovering that God has nothing to do with exclusion and everything to do with belonging.