Welcome to Market Movers: Building Brands & Links with Linkifi!Your go-to podcast for transforming your business into an unforgettable brand where branding meets SEO and link-building. I’m Chris Panteli, Co-Founder and CEO of Linkifi, and I’m joined by my co-host and Co-Founder, Nick Biggs. In this episode we welcome Mark Jackson, founder of SwagDrop and a 35-year veteran in branded merchandise. Mark shares how he got his start when a neighbor literally threw a phone book at him and told him to go find customers, how the pandemic reshaped the industry, and why print-on-demand stores and hybrid swag programs are the next big wave for companies that want flexibility without warehousing headaches.   Key Talking Points ✅ Accidental Start, Real Sales Training. Mark entered promo at 21 or 22, got handed a phone book as a prospect list, bought the original company, sold it, then built what became Swagdrop.✅ Swag Is Still Last-Minute. Even after decades of tech change, gifting is still often an “afterthought”, driven by events, holidays, or a CEO request.✅ Industry Reality: Fragmented Market. Thousands of distributors and suppliers, with “top 10%” surprisingly small by revenue standards. Swagdrop is under $10M, serving primarily North America but shipping globally.✅ Pandemic Pivot: From Events to Employees. When sales hit zero, the comeback came from companies caring for culture, connection, and remote teams. HR became a major buyer, not just marketing.✅ What Actually Drives Growth. Outreach triggers are hard because buyers do not plan swag well. Mark credits SEO, technical foundations, content, plus client portability, where buyers take Swagdrop with them to new companies.✅ Why Paid Ads Didn’t Stick. Swagdrop is built for complex programs, not one-off mugs or 11 shirts. Paid tends to attract low-fit traffic, not solution buyers.✅ Print-On-Demand Pop-Up Shops. Companies give employees a link and a budget. Employees pick sizes, styles, and colors. Some opt out, often bringing programs under budget but raising satisfaction.✅ Fast “Gift” Without Fast Fulfillment. Even in December, companies can launch a shop before holidays, employees select items, and product ships after. The “gift” still lands psychologically on time.✅ Supply Chain Still Has Curveballs. Geopolitics, events, and unexpected logistics issues are constant. China remains key, but Mark flags growth in India and apparel manufacturing in the Caribbean.✅ The Future: Hybrid Programs. Large brands will mix bulk inventory for events with print-on-demand for employee gifting to reduce warehousing and SaaS storage fees.   Quotes from Mark Jackson 📢 “He literally threw a phone book at me. He said, ‘Those are your customers. Go talk to them.’”📢 “Swag is almost an afterthought. It’s the last thing people think of.”📢 “Triggers are extremely difficult. Most people don’t know when they’re going to use swag.”📢 “SEO isn’t dead. You pull a little bit on every lever, then increase what works.”📢 “People reach out to 20 companies. You’re the first one that got back to me.”📢 “The future is hybrid. Some inventory for corporate needs, print-on-demand for employees.”   Actionable Insights 🎯 Stop Guessing, Let Employees Choose Use a pop-up shop with a budget so recipients pick what they actually want. Add options by size, gender fit, color, and let opt-outs reduce waste. 🧩 Build a Hybrid Swag Strategy Keep in-stock inventory for events and urgent needs. Use print-on-demand for employee gifting, onboarding, and evergreen company stores to avoid huge warehousing costs. 🔍 Invest Where Intent Is Highest In a last-minute industry, SEO can win because searches are often urgent and high intent. Use content that answers program-level questions, not product-only queries. ⚡ Win With Responsiveness Many vendors hide behind forms. If you sell complex programs, speed-to-human matters. A fast call plus real guidance can become your biggest differentiator. 📦 Plan Around Reality, Not Best-Ca