In this episode, I speak with Dr. Gary Null, Assistant Department Head for Undergraduate Affairs in the Industrial Systems and Engineering Department at the University of Tennessee.

Gary’s 30-year career spanned three “dreams”: serving as a Navy officer and later Army civilian manager, working for his dream company, General Motors, and ultimately becoming a professor at the University of Tennessee. His path was sparked early by growing up near Detroit’s auto industry and inspired by Top Gun’s portrayal of Navy service, which led him to the Naval Academy. His journey was not strictly planned but evolved through opportunities, flexibility, and a willingness to move forward without regret.

In our leadership segment, Gary discusses how, during Base Realignment and Closure period in the Army, he led a downsized department responsible for global Army vessel maintenance. With limited staff but ample funding, he built coalitions of contractors and engineers from multiple organizations, fostering unity with simple but powerful tactics like shared polo shirts and dinners, while negotiating with leaders to secure resources.

Gary urges engineers to “get comfortable being uncomfortable” by embracing new challenges like public speaking, technical tools, and team collaboration. He stresses humility, warning against overconfidence and advocating for leaders to remain receptive to advice until the moment a decision must be made.

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