Ever tried explaining to a CFO why you need millions for something that might happen? In this episode, we dive into the delicate dance between security teams and finance departments – a partnership that's part tango, part negotiation, and entirely essential. We explore the strategic questions that actually move budget needles: What's our customer risk tolerance? How quickly can we respond when things go sideways? And perhaps most importantly – how do we have these conversations before we're explaining a breach to the board? Because the only thing worse than a security incident is trying to explain why you weren't prepared for one.