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Masters of Search
Niklas Buschner
19 episodes
6 days ago
Radyant launched the Masters of Search podcast to bring you the behind the scenes stories from some of the smartest people around the world in SEO & AI Search.
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Radyant launched the Masters of Search podcast to bring you the behind the scenes stories from some of the smartest people around the world in SEO & AI Search.
Show more...
Marketing
Technology,
Business,
Management
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ENTERPRISE SEO MASTERCLASS | Roberto Grasiano, ex Head of Organic Growth & SEO @ Shutterstock
Masters of Search
1 hour 13 minutes
1 week ago
ENTERPRISE SEO MASTERCLASS | Roberto Grasiano, ex Head of Organic Growth & SEO @ Shutterstock
24 BILLION pages. That's the sheer scale at which Roberto Grasiano led SEO and organic growth at Shutterstock. I'm so excited that I could convince him to come on the Masters of Search to bring you 73 minutes of Enterprise SEO masterclass. Here are my key takeaways, both for Enterprise SEO and for smaller sites: 1. At enterprise scale, you can't crawl the site Roberto couldn't audit individual pages at Shutterstock (24B pages, 500M indexed). Instead, he built comprehensive taxonomy mapping the entire site structure into clusters: broad categories (animals, cars, people), then subcategories (felines, SUVs), with exact page counts for each. This taxonomy determined which optimizations to test and how to measure impact. Even at 10,000 pages, taxonomy thinking beats keyword thinking. Group pages by intent clusters and user journey stages, not just traffic volume. 2. Content optimized for bots actually costs you money Roberto moved SEO content from top of category pages (above products) to below the fold. Theory said top placement ranks better. Result? 15% traffic increase. Users wanting specific products don't read text blocks. They want to see products immediately. When you optimize for bots over humans, you hurt user experience, which ultimately hurts rankings. Plus, bots crawling content cost server resources. His rule: content should be made for humans. If it's good enough, it'll show to the people who need it. 3. ChatGPT commerce will be big When I pushed back on instant checkout in ChatGPT (pointing to Meta's failed checkout), Roberto made a psychological argument: OpenAI builds something that feels like a friend who knows you. Remember when everyone said people would never buy things online? "No one will trust this, we need to touch products." Now our parents spend hours on Amazon. Shopping behavior changes over decades. People will buy through AI interfaces. It won't be fast, but it'll happen. 4. SEOs are underpaid Roberto's advice: learn your data, understand attribution, connect organic to revenue. Don't ask your boss to track revenue if you can't answer "how much money did you make last quarter?" Moving from vanity metrics (rankings, traffic) to commercial metrics (pipeline, revenue) gives SEOs negotiating power. We have the tools and data available. We just need to use them. ▶ Let's connect! 🔗 Niklas on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/niklas-buschner/ Radyant on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/radyant/ Roberto on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robertograsiano/ Lottie on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/thankslottie/ Shutterstock on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/shutterstock/
Masters of Search
Radyant launched the Masters of Search podcast to bring you the behind the scenes stories from some of the smartest people around the world in SEO & AI Search.