Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán speaks with Mathias Döpfner about his meetings with Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin, his vision for a new European order, and why he believes Brussels has turned a “peace project into a war project.”

He calls Trump “the man of peace,” and warns that continued escalation risks a third world war.

“The longer the war continues, the stronger Russia becomes.”

A revealing exchange about power, belief - and the uncertain future of the West.

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