This week on the Meatgistics podcast, Jon and Ali sit down with Travis Frank, TV host of @madefortheoutdoors5987 and The Flush, seasoned hunter, and fishing guide. The trio dives into a wide-ranging conversation covering everything from tick troubles in the outdoors to the ethics of using sonar in fishing. Travis shares some incredible hunting stories and weighs in on the moral decisions hunters face, like when to take the shot and when to hold back. While in town, Travis also made some brats and a batch of peppery au jus jerky, which they sample live on the podcast. It’s an episode full of flavor, insight, and outdoor passion.