On Mind Over Matter, we unpack the difference between saying “I forgive you” and actually clearing the anger that lingers. Katharine Giovanni—award-winning author, speaker, and forgiveness mentor—lays out a practical, repeatable method to move people from “unforgivable” to irrelevant in your mind. We cover myths about forgiveness (it’s not giving in, and it doesn’t require reconciling), why clearing the energy of the event matters, and how to work your list from easy hurts to the hard stuff—safely and sustainably. If you’ve tried to forgive and it never “sticks,” this is a direct, step-by-step playbook you can start tonight.   About the guest  : Katharine Giovanni is an international speaker, bestselling author, cancer survivor, and transformation mentor. A lifelong entrepreneur, she developed a structured forgiveness method used by professionals and individuals to release anger quickly and keep it from returning—by also forgiving the energy around the people, places, years, and objects tied to the memory.   Key takeaways: Forgiveness is for you. It’s not approval or reconciliation; it’s removing someone from your mental real estate so triggers stop and you regain focus. Work a written list, rated 1–10. Start with easy 1–3s (spills, traffic, small slights) and build capacity before approaching 8–10 “unforgivable” cases. One person at a time, in private. Visualize them (or use a chair/photo), say what you need to say, then close with: “I forgive <name>. I forgive the energy around <name>. I forgive myself and the energy around myself and this relationship.” Forgive the energy, not just the event. Clear associated places, objects, bystanders, years, cities, seasons—anything woven into the memory—so the charge can’t reattach. Expect the “closet to open.” If emotion spikes after a first pass, your brain likely surfaced new material. Re-rate, move it to the back of the list, and repeat 24 hours later. Set limits. No more than five releases per night. Fatigue or GI upset can be normal as the body processes stored stress; do sessions near bedtime. Neutral is the goal. Real forgiveness feels like indifference—you can see the name or person and not care. Relapses aren’t failures. If a forgiven “10” spikes later, it’s usually to a “5.” Re-work it and keep going.   How to connect with the guest   Website: https://www.katharinegiovanni.com/ Books: Search “Katharine Giovanni” on Amazon Instagram Programs: 10-day email class on forgiveness   Want to be a guest on Healthy Mind, Healthy Life? DM on PM - Send me a message on PodMatch DM Me Here: https://www.podmatch.com/hostdetailpreview/avik   Disclaimer: This video is for educational and informational purposes only. The views expressed are the personal opinions of the guest and do not reflect the views of the host or Healthy Mind By Avik™️. We do not intend to harm, defame, or discredit any person, organization, brand, product, country, or profession mentioned. All third-party media used remain the property of their respective owners and are used under fair use for informational purposes. By watching, you acknowledge and accept this disclaimer.   Healthy Mind By Avik™️ is a global platform redefining mental health as a necessity, not a luxury. Born during the pandemic, it’s become a sanctuary for healing, growth, and mindful living. Hosted by Avik Chakraborty—storyteller, survivor, wellness advocate—this channel shares powerful podcasts and soul-nurturing conversations on: • Mental Health & Emotional Well-being• Mindfulness & Spiritual Growth• Holistic Healing & Conscious Living• Trauma Recovery & Self-Empowerment With over 4,400+ episodes and 168.4K+ global listeners, join us as we unite voices, break stigma, and build a world where every story matters. 👉 Subscribe and be part of this healing journey. Contact💼 Brand: Healthy Mind By Avik™📧 Email: join@healthymindbyavik.com | podcast@healthymindbyavik.com🌐 Website: www.h