How can we create a fair and sustainable world? The Money for Change podcast explores how money shapes our economy and global progress. We do this together with systems thinker and chief economist at Triodos Bank Hans Stegeman.

COP30 is just behind us and the outcomes of the 30th conference on climate change are to put it mildly, very mixed. Slow progress has been made, but in the end no major breakthroughs: no global agreements on deforestation and the phasing out of fossil fuels have been made, illustrating the slow advancement of effectively combating climate change. On top of that, the United States had no formal delegation present, while fossil-fuel lobbyists outnumbered the representatives of any single country.

Does this mean it is all doom and gloom? We don’t think so. Together with Sven Renon, Impact manager at Triodos Bank, we speak what the near future could hold for us. We discuss the proposal of some countries to create a pathway for phasing out fossil fuels. In 2026, Colombia will host, in collaboration with the Netherlands, a separate conference next year dedicated to shape this pathway. What potential does a ‘coalition of the willing’ have to accelerate the energy transition? We also reflect on the role of other agents; what can we as Triodos Bank, other financial institutions and you as a listener do to enhance the most important transition of our time?

Find out in this episode of Money for Change!

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