Joel White, president of the Council for Affordable Health Coverage, joins the conversation to unpack the health care battles that fueled the longest government shutdown in U.S. history. At the center: Obamacare subsidies versus consumer choice. White argues that the Affordable Care Act drove up premiums, deductibles, and medical inflation while restricting options and funneling taxpayer dollars to insurers. He outlines a shift toward health savings accounts (HSAs), giving individuals direct subsidies to buy cheaper plans and cover gaps like prescriptions or out-of-network care. With 61 million Americans already using HSAs, White sees them as the foundation for a more flexible, consumer-driven system. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.