This week on the NAWL podcast, host Mary Card Mina is joined by NAWL past presidents Karen Morris and Lisa Horowitz for a deeply insightful and empowering conversation on navigating career transitions—particularly for military, federal government, and government-adjacent attorneys facing professional change. Drawing from their own rich experiences and coaching expertise, Karen and Lisa explore the emotional and strategic dimensions of transitions, including how to manage a transition mindset, embrace liminality, and plan for the future with clarity and purpose. Whether you're facing a layoff, contemplating a new direction, or supporting others through change, this episode is filled with wisdom, tools, and encouragement to help you move forward with confidence and intention. Tune in to learn how to turn uncertainty into opportunity and build a career—and life—that aligns with your values.