Roto And Cascade with Terts and Arya from NLnet Labs

https://is1-ssl.mzstatic.com/image/thumb/Podcasts211/v4/c8/b7/bf/c8b7bf5b-e07b-d311-66bf-82adb0e060e4/mza_11183718116199647259.jpeg/600x600bb.jpg

netstack.fm

Plabayo BV

20 episodes

5 days ago

A podcast about networking, Rust, and everything in between. Join us as we explore the stack: from protocols and packet flows to the people and projects building the modern internet — all through the lens of Rust. Featuring deep dives, crate spotlights, and expert interviews.

Technology

RSS

All content for netstack.fm is the property of Plabayo BV and is served directly from their servers with no modification, redirects, or rehosting. The podcast is not affiliated with or endorsed by Podjoint in any way.

Technology

https://hosting-media.rs-prod.riverside.fm/media/podcasts/874b786e-9d30-4991-9787-f0ef69593261/logos/a8ace878-ac40-4a7e-8470-d56fe5cc79dc.jpeg

Roto And Cascade with Terts and Arya from NLnet Labs

netstack.fm

1 hour 26 minutes 57 seconds

1 month ago

Roto And Cascade with Terts and Arya from NLnet Labs

Episode 14 – Roto And Cascade with Terts and Arya from NLnet Labs.

In this episode we have a conversation with Terts and Arya from NLnet Labs. Together we explore their paths into systems programming, the mission of NLnet Labs, and the critical internet infrastructure the organization maintains. The discussion spans DNSSEC, large scale DNS operations, Rotonda, and the Roto scripting language, with deep dives into performance engineering, zero copy design, and building resilient open source networking software. It is a technical episode that highlights the people and ideas behind essential internet protocols.

Learn more:

https://www.nlnetlabs.nl/ — NLnet Labs website
https://github.com/NLnetLabs/cascade — A friendly DNSSEC signing solution
https://indico.dns-oarc.net/event/55/contributions/1186 — slides of conference talk introducing Cascade
https://github.com/NLnetLabs/rotonda — Modular, programmable BGP Engine
https://github.com/NLnetLabs/roto — strongly-typed, compiled embedded scripting language for Rust
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xJEFPlfy7Y — EuroRust 2025 talk by Terts on Roto
https://docs.rs/domain/latest/domain/new/base/wire/index.html — domain's zerocopy module
https://bal-e.org/blog/ — Blog from Arya
https://2026.rustweek.org/ — RustWeek 2026 (with open CFP until EOY 2025)

Rama

If you like this podcast you might also like our modular network framework in Rust: https://ramaproxy.org

Chapters

00:00 Intro
01:14 Backgrounds of Terts and Arya
10:37 Overview of NLnet Labs
17:43 Understanding DNSSEC
25:29 The Role of Cascade in DNSSEC
41:06 Understanding Roto and Rotonda
45:55 The Evolution of Roto's Scripting Language
49:34 Integration and Efficiency in Roto
52:05 Real-World Applications of Roto
01:00:36 The Importance of Data Structures in Performance
01:06:34 Optimization Strategies for High Performance
01:17:14 Zero-Copy Techniques in DNS Handling
01:26:06 Outro

Netstack.FM

More information: https://netstack.fm/#episode-14
Join our Discord: https://discord.gg/29EetaSYCD
Reach out to us: hello@netstack.fm

Music for this episode was composed by Dj Mailbox. Listen to his music at https://on.soundcloud.com/4MRyPSNj8FZoVGpytj