You’ve heard us reference the work of Jay Springett (aka @thejaymo) on nearly every pod this year — so with his new book Slop Machines of Loving Grace near completion, we invited Jay on the show to chat through some of its themes. The book takes 2008 as a breaking point, a moment where the late-20th century financial system imploded and, in its place, society was given a new operating system: one optimized for exocapitalism and shaped by “smartness,” a forceful symbiosis of finance and software.
On the ep, we discuss the rise of American “code-spaces” (e.g., apps, platforms, etc) and hyper-fragmented “data subjects” taking the place of the modern “individual.” "What happens,” Lil Internet asks, “when AI agents become not just tools but inhabitants of the world of human culture?
Chat with an Oct 2025 draft Jay’s book’s here: https://chatgpt.com/g/g-68d150abe8008191b27383697808eed9-slop-machines
Follow/subscribe/listen to more of Jay’s work at https://thejaymo.net
See also: NM85 | Jay Springett on “Worlds” as Medium (2024)
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You’ve heard us reference the work of Jay Springett (aka @thejaymo) on nearly every pod this year — so with his new book Slop Machines of Loving Grace near completion, we invited Jay on the show to chat through some of its themes. The book takes 2008 as a breaking point, a moment where the late-20th century financial system imploded and, in its place, society was given a new operating system: one optimized for exocapitalism and shaped by “smartness,” a forceful symbiosis of finance and software.
On the ep, we discuss the rise of American “code-spaces” (e.g., apps, platforms, etc) and hyper-fragmented “data subjects” taking the place of the modern “individual.” "What happens,” Lil Internet asks, “when AI agents become not just tools but inhabitants of the world of human culture?
Chat with an Oct 2025 draft Jay’s book’s here: https://chatgpt.com/g/g-68d150abe8008191b27383697808eed9-slop-machines
Follow/subscribe/listen to more of Jay’s work at https://thejaymo.net
See also: NM85 | Jay Springett on “Worlds” as Medium (2024)
Preview | NM Talkcore: Gideon Jacobs on Media, Politics, and Ketaphysics (2025)
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Preview | NM Talkcore: Gideon Jacobs on Media, Politics, and Ketaphysics (2025)
This is a preview — for the full episode (released: Sept 24, 2025), subscribe: https://newmodels.io https://patreon.com/newmodels https://newmodels.substack.com
Writer Gideon Jacobs joins to discuss ontological literacy among other things in the wake of the assassination of American Christian Nationalist Charlie Kirk, which in our assessment was not actually a political assassination.
Names Cited: Alexander Dugan, Amanda Askell, Alain Badiou, Jean Baudrillard, Becoming Press, Byung-Chul Han, CERN, Charlie Kirk, Donald Trump, Kevin Munger, Elon Musk, Eric Davis, Grok, Felix Guattari, Jay Springet, Jesus Christ, Jezebel, Keith Johnstone, Kamala Harris, Larry Ellison, Luigi Mangione, Marshall McLuhan, Mara McKevitt, Mark Zuckerberg, Peter Carroll, Vladamir Putin, RFK Jr., René Girard, Theo Anthony, Tyler Robinson, UnitedHealthcare, Walter Ong
See also:
https://www.instagram.com/gideon___jacobs
NM Talkcore: Gideon Jacobs on Trump as Image (Nov 2024)
NM Talkcore: Gideon Jacobs on Musk, Trump, and Fiction (2025)
Gideon Jacobs, “Player One and Main Character,” (Apr. 2025)
https://lareviewofbooks.org/article/player-one-and-main-character/
Gideon Jacobs, “Trump l’Oeil,” (LARB, Nov 2024)
https://lareviewofbooks.org/article/trump-loeil/
Jay Springett: https://thejaymo.net/permanentlymoved/
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You’ve heard us reference the work of Jay Springett (aka @thejaymo) on nearly every pod this year — so with his new book Slop Machines of Loving Grace near completion, we invited Jay on the show to chat through some of its themes. The book takes 2008 as a breaking point, a moment where the late-20th century financial system imploded and, in its place, society was given a new operating system: one optimized for exocapitalism and shaped by “smartness,” a forceful symbiosis of finance and software.
On the ep, we discuss the rise of American “code-spaces” (e.g., apps, platforms, etc) and hyper-fragmented “data subjects” taking the place of the modern “individual.” "What happens,” Lil Internet asks, “when AI agents become not just tools but inhabitants of the world of human culture?
Chat with an Oct 2025 draft Jay’s book’s here: https://chatgpt.com/g/g-68d150abe8008191b27383697808eed9-slop-machines
Follow/subscribe/listen to more of Jay’s work at https://thejaymo.net
See also: NM85 | Jay Springett on “Worlds” as Medium (2024)
