Welcome to Nice Talk, hosted by Marie Claire Editor in Chief Nikki Ogunnaike. Each week, Nikki will sit down with fascinating women—entertainers, entrepreneurs, creators, athletes, and changemakers—to discuss money, power, and style. “Well-behaved” women have long been discouraged from speaking on these topics—style should be effortless, and conversations about money or power aren’t “proper,” “ladylike,” or “nice.” But Nikki’s definition of a Nice Talk is one where all parties walk away feeling empowered. Nikki’s guests are getting candid about how they navigated their come-ups, what makes them feel both powerful and powerless, and of course, how they use personal style to communicate with the world.
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Welcome to Nice Talk, hosted by Marie Claire Editor in Chief Nikki Ogunnaike. Each week, Nikki will sit down with fascinating women—entertainers, entrepreneurs, creators, athletes, and changemakers—to discuss money, power, and style. “Well-behaved” women have long been discouraged from speaking on these topics—style should be effortless, and conversations about money or power aren’t “proper,” “ladylike,” or “nice.” But Nikki’s definition of a Nice Talk is one where all parties walk away feeling empowered. Nikki’s guests are getting candid about how they navigated their come-ups, what makes them feel both powerful and powerless, and of course, how they use personal style to communicate with the world.
Style Talk: Alli Webb on Leaving Perfectionism Behind and Embracing Messiness
Nice Talk with Nikki Ogunnaike
39 minutes
4 months ago
Style Talk: Alli Webb on Leaving Perfectionism Behind and Embracing Messiness
Alli Webb made a name for herself as the visionary behind the blow-dry empire Drybar, and now, she’s stepping back into the world of haircare—this time with an entirely different approach. Her new haircare brand, Messy, which launched in Sephora and online earlier this summer, focuses on embracing your natural hair rather than trying to achieve the “perfect” blowout. The brand’s ethos is directly tied to Webb’s personal journey of leaving perfectionism behind after exiting Drybar in 2020. In this episode, she discusses how she developed the mantra-based product names, why the only thing she’s “anti” is the idea of perfection, and the relationship between Messy and the “clean girl” aesthetic. Plus, we get into who gets permission to be messy in our current culture.
Nice Talk with Nikki Ogunnaike
Welcome to Nice Talk, hosted by Marie Claire Editor in Chief Nikki Ogunnaike. Each week, Nikki will sit down with fascinating women—entertainers, entrepreneurs, creators, athletes, and changemakers—to discuss money, power, and style. “Well-behaved” women have long been discouraged from speaking on these topics—style should be effortless, and conversations about money or power aren’t “proper,” “ladylike,” or “nice.” But Nikki’s definition of a Nice Talk is one where all parties walk away feeling empowered. Nikki’s guests are getting candid about how they navigated their come-ups, what makes them feel both powerful and powerless, and of course, how they use personal style to communicate with the world.
