No Longer Nomads is a podcast dedicated to bringing you real stories of transformation and insights to help you navigate life's trickiest relationships. Relationships make or break our legacy, our footprint when we leave this place. Investing in these relationships is key.
No Longer Nomads is a podcast about finding hope in the middle of life’s deserts, through raw stories, and honest conversations.
I'm Josh Doyle, your host for the show. I'm happily married with three young, energetic boys. In addition to running a digital ministry, I also manage a small business. And I'm always looking for an opportunity to enjoy the outdoors.
No Longer Nomads is a podcast dedicated to bringing you real stories of transformation and insights to help you navigate life's trickiest relationships. Relationships make or break our legacy, our footprint when we leave this place. Investing in these relationships is key.
No Longer Nomads is a podcast about finding hope in the middle of life’s deserts, through raw stories, and honest conversations.
I'm Josh Doyle, your host for the show. I'm happily married with three young, energetic boys. In addition to running a digital ministry, I also manage a small business. And I'm always looking for an opportunity to enjoy the outdoors.
What do you do when your life shatters in a way you never saw coming?
In today’s powerful episode of No Longer Nomads, host Josh Doyle sits down with bestselling author Lysa TerKeurst and biblical scholar Dr. Joel Muddamalle to talk honestly about pain, divorce, theology, healing, and the God who walks with us through it all.
Lysa opens up about her deeply personal journey that inspired her new book, Surviving an Unwanted Divorce, and the years of heartbreak, counseling, and rebuilding that followed. Dr. Joel brings rich biblical context—breaking down passages like Matthew 19—and helps us understand what Scripture really says about marriage, divorce, dignity, and the heart of God toward His hurting children.
Whether you’re navigating your own divorce, supporting someone who is, or simply facing a season of pain, this conversation offers hope, clarity, and truth.
You were never meant to wander alone.
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Chapters:
00:00 – The Pain No One Expects: Lysa’s Opening Words
00:26 – What No Longer Nomads Is All About
01:01 – Introducing Lysa TerKeurst & Dr. Joel Muddamalle
01:23 – Why Lysa Wrote Surviving an Unwanted Divorce
03:09 – “I Never Thought Divorce Would Be My Story”
04:12 – The Two People Who Helped Her Survive
05:17 – Early Reactions to the Book
06:13 – Meet Dr. Joel: From Bible Nerd to Theology Leader
07:52 – When Theology Meets Real Life Pain
09:11 – Parenting, Emotions, and the Pressures of Marriage
09:58 – Matthew 19 Explained: What Jesus Was Really Saying
11:50 – The Cultural Context Behind Divorce Laws
14:08 – Why Jesus Elevated the Dignity of Women
15:19 – Romans 8: How God Brings Good from Suffering
16:03 – Joseph’s Story, Your Story: “But God…”
17:12 – Redemption Isn’t Always Reconciliation
18:30 – Is Marriage Becoming an Idol? Hard Truths
19:47 – Healing Before Dating: Why It Matters
20:33 – How Dysfunction Can Feel Like “Normal”
21:52 – When Marriage Is Elevated Above the Image Bearer
23:10 – Avoiding Counterfeits While You Heal
24:49 – Learning to Sit With Your Own Thoughts
25:59 – The Most Important Word in the Bible: THROUGH
27:09 – You Are Not Beyond Repair
27:32 – Why You May Never Get the Closure You Want
28:50 – Lysa’s Word to Listeners: “What Happened to You Was Wrong.”
29:28 – Where to Find Lysa & Dr. Joel
30:02 – Closing Thoughts & Next Week’s Episode
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