Two days before recording this show, there were mass protests against president Jair Bolsonaro, whose covid and climate policies have been disastrous for the population. Sabrina Fernandes is a climate activist and sociologist, affiliated with the Rosa Luxemburg Foundation in Berlin. She spoke to Leonidas Aretakis, editor-in-chief at Flamman. "Norrskenet" is a podcast about ideas by Flamman, a Swedish leftist weekly magazine founded in 1906. Please give us a nice rating if you like the show.