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Nursing the System
Claire Phillips, DNP RN
52 episodes
6 days ago
The Nursing the System Podcast is for nurses who want to change the healthcare system—but are tired of bandaid fixes and ‘just try harder’ advice. This podcast delivers practical tools, real-world case studies, and systems thinking strategies to help you drive meaningful change—without burning out in the process.

Brought to you by Nursing the System and your host, Claire Phillips, DNP RN.
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The Nursing the System Podcast is for nurses who want to change the healthcare system—but are tired of bandaid fixes and ‘just try harder’ advice. This podcast delivers practical tools, real-world case studies, and systems thinking strategies to help you drive meaningful change—without burning out in the process.

Brought to you by Nursing the System and your host, Claire Phillips, DNP RN.
Show more...
Medicine
Business,
Careers,
Health & Fitness
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38: How to be a Follower
Nursing the System
33 minutes
4 months ago
38: How to be a Follower

🎧 Episode Overview:


This episode was inspired by a DM I got from a nurse named Jessica, who asked about a topic I don’t hear discussed nearly enough: followership. We talk a lot about leadership in nursing—and for good reason—but we rarely explore what it means to be a great follower.


In this episode, I’m diving into how following is actually a critical leadership skill, what it looks like to move between leading and following in real-world changemaking, and how honoring the work that came before us makes us more effective (and less overwhelmed) systems thinkers.


🔑 In This Episode, You’ll Learn:


  • Why we need to reframe followership as an active and essential component of leadership
  • How I think about leadership and followership as a dance, not a hierarchy
  • What Picasso, cave paintings, and John Green taught me about systems change
  • How to assess whether it’s your moment to lead—or your moment to follow
  • The six key habits that make someone an effective follower in a change ecosystem


🧠 Key Ideas to Take With You:


  • Systems change is the work of generations. You don’t have to invent it—you just have to move it forward.
  • Leadership and followership are not opposites. They’re both skills every changemaker needs.
  • You don’t have to be in charge to lead change—you just have to know when and how to step up.
  • Being an effective follower is about curiosity, discernment, humility, and action.


🎧 How to Get the Most Out of This Episode:


Listen with an open mind about your own role in change. Whether you identify more as a “leader” or “supporter,” this episode will challenge you to think differently about what it means to contribute meaningfully to a team—and a system.


🛠️ Practical Actions You Can Take:


  • Ask yourself: “Where in my work am I trying to invent when I could connect to what’s already been done?”
  • Identify one place this week where you can follow strategically—whether by stepping back, supporting someone else’s idea, or conserving your energy.
  • Reflect on who in your workplace has expertise you can amplify, not overshadow.
  • Use the six followership habits I outline (escalation, amplification, collaboration, humility, resilience, and systems thinking) to evaluate where you might grow.
  • Get curious about your current change ecosystem and the role you naturally play within it.


📣 Special Announcements:


✨ Changemaker Essentials opens soon for the September cohort! If you’re interested in systems thinking, strategic leadership, and practical tools for real-world change—join the waitlist.


🎓 Want a great starting point? Take the Map Your Impact mini-course. Use code MYI10OFF for $10 off.



👉 Resources Mentioned:

  • Map Your Impact mini-course
  • Change Maker Essentials
  • The Anthropocene Reviewed by John Green
  • The Lascaux Cave Paintings (L-A-S-C-A-U-X—look them up!)
Nursing the System
The Nursing the System Podcast is for nurses who want to change the healthcare system—but are tired of bandaid fixes and ‘just try harder’ advice. This podcast delivers practical tools, real-world case studies, and systems thinking strategies to help you drive meaningful change—without burning out in the process.

Brought to you by Nursing the System and your host, Claire Phillips, DNP RN.