Listen HERE Here is the podcast with Wayne Hsiung, Gary Francione and Bob Linden http://www.goveganradio.com/go-vegan-radio-615/ - the discussion occurs starting at about 36 minutes into the show. Here is the ever important, historical, monumental must listen debate between Erik Marcus and Gary Francione (if calling it a 'conversation' will make you listen to it, then call it a conversation) it's a MUST LISTEN: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-NWA4Rf120 Here is a link to Gary Francione's BOOKS.  READ THEM!  http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/books/ This is Rain Without Thunder, published in 1996: http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/the-necessity-of-theory/ We know the world isn't going to go vegan overnight okay???? http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/abolition-simple-concepts-pop-quiz/ This is that blog post I talked about about the coalition needed for these single issue campaigns (also discussed in the podcast with Bob Linden and Wayne Hsiung). It's called" Why Welfare Reform Campaigns and Single-Issue Campaigns Necessarily Promote Animal Exploitation http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/14542-2/ Here is the blog post on the importance of theory and how everyone, even those who says they don't subscribe to theory, is actually operating under some kind of theory: http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/the-necessity-of-theory/ Here is that podcast I did about "one way" activism: http://nzveganpodcast.blogspot.co.nz/2016/05/nzvp-ep132-earthlings-experience-and.html Check out Vanda Kadas' facebook page to see her fantastic, REGULARLY OCCURRING abolitionist approach vegan stall that she does every week!!! Here is a photo: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10155228092022895&set=t.729047894&type=3&theater