Jo Randerson is the founder and artistic director of Barbarian Productions, a Wellington-based theatre production company. The Barbarians are driven by their belief in radical fun, courageous expression, fluidity, generosity and participation. They make works that are fun, interactive and often chaotic... but good, fun chaos. Jo also played an essential role in revitalising Vogelmorn Bowling Club into a community space with a bar, a café, a ginger beer brewery, and a toy library. In this episode, we deep dive into the state of the arts (literally) in Aotearoa and what we think the arts infrastructure needs to build up post covid. We also talk about the skills needed to make magic happen as socially engaged artists, often engaging different stakeholders in government, civil society, the arts, private sectors and more. https://www.barbarian.co.nz This podcast season is supported by Singapore National Art Council.