In this week's episode, Jess and Karli start off by debriefing Jess's interaction with Alex Warren this weekend and how it highlighted the humanity that often gets lost when people rise to fame quickly. They then unpack Jacob Elordi’s viral paparazzi interaction, digging into the entitlement culture around celebrity access, the economics of paparazzi, and how parasocial relationships have blurred the line between public figure and public property. They finish by reflecting on Jelly Roll’s appearance on Joe Rogan, discussing his journey through incarceration, addiction, massive health transformation, and an emotional full-circle moment as he gets inducted as a member of the Grand Ole Opry.