In this episode, Alyssa and Nadia have an unexpectedly deep conversation about aging, family caregiving, and what happens when we need help but don't want to admit it.

What starts as a recap of the New York Marathon — where Nadia's gymnastics teammate ran 26.2 miles and a 78-year-old completed the race — quickly turns into a reflection on what aging looks like. Alyssa shares her concerns about her mother-in-law (Nadia's grandmother) who's struggling with the decision of what comes next: staying independent in her 5-bedroom home or accepting that she needs more support.

The conversation becomes vulnerable as Alyssa admits she doesn't understand why older people resist what seems like the obvious, logical choice. Nadia offers a different perspective — cultural expectations, personality, and the desire to maintain independence all play a role. They debate who gets to make decisions when someone needs help: the person needing care, or the caregiver? And what happens when family members disagree?

Alyssa makes Nadia promise (on the record) that when the time comes, she'll listen when her daughters say it's time to move to assisted living. They discuss the financial and emotional costs of elder care, why living with adult children often strains relationships, and the fantasy of having a trustworthy live-in caretaker in your own home. Eric's plan? If he gets dementia, just leave him in the Philippines with caretakers — a plan Alyssa firmly rejects.

The episode wraps with reflections on genetics vs. lifestyle, social media wellness culture, and whether all those expensive creams actually do anything — or just give us the illusion of control.

This is a conversation about autonomy, family dynamics, and the tension between wanting independence and needing support.

Takeaways

• Aging looks different for everyone — some people run marathons at 78, others need significant help
• Cultural expectations shape how we think about caring for aging parents and grandparents
• When someone needs help, there's tension between honoring their autonomy and doing what's practical
• Living with adult children can strain family dynamics — personal space (physical and emotional) matters
• Assisted living costs are a major concern, and fear of running out of money keeps people independent longer
• The "ideal" aging scenario: staying in your own home with a trustworthy caregiver
• Siblings often handle caregiving decisions differently — one usually takes the lead
• Longevity is more about genetics than trendy wellness routines
• Social media wellness culture can overcomplicate things that used to be simple
• We can't control aging, but thinking we can makes us feel better

Chapters

0:09–2:17 – New York Marathon: 78-Year-Olds and 4-Minute Miles

2:18–5:22 – What Do We Want When We're Older? Alyssa's Perspective

5:23–7:27 – Cultural Expectations and Taking Care of Aging Parents

7:28–9:26 – Who Gets to Decide? The Person Needing Help or the Caregiver?

9:27–10:42 – Will You Be Stubborn? Personality and Control

10:43–12:33 – Would You Want Your Parents to Move In

12:34–14:22 – Personal Space and Family Dynamics

14:23–16:27 – Assisted Living Costs and Financial Fears

16:28–17:38 – Eric's Philippines Plan (And Why Alyssa Says No)

17:39–19:46 – Genetics vs. Lifestyle: What Really Determines Longevity

19:47–20:18 – Closing