In this powerful conversation, Adam Gibson sits down with Ros Nealon-Cook, the first Australian psychologist to publicly speak out against the COVID narrative back in 2020–21. Ros shares her personal story of losing her psychology registration for doing what every parent instinctively knows is right—speaking up to protect children from harm. Together, Adam and Ros unpack what really went on behind the fear campaigns, lockdowns and professional gag orders that silenced so many voices of reason. Drawing on decades of psychological insight, Ros explains how fear literally hijacks the human brain, shutting down critical thinking and driving good people to conform with the herd. She breaks down the mechanics of group psychology, attachment to authority, and how governments used behavioural “nudge units” to manipulate the public into compliance. Most powerfully, she reveals how this collective trauma has affected our children—the so-called “COVID kindies”—and why so many kids today are struggling to regulate their emotions, focus, and trust the world around them. Adam and Ros move the discussion toward healing—starting with psycho-education for parents and kids. From her simple “Red Beast / White Rabbit” model for teaching self-regulation, to the deeper work of raising emotionally whole boys and rebuilding community outside captured systems, this episode is full of practical tools and profound hope. It’s a must-listen for any parent determined to raise resilient, critically-thinking kids in a post-COVID world. Links to resources mentioned in this episode: https://lighthousedeclaration.org/ https://zonesofregulation.com/ Interview with Dr John Campbell: https://youtu.be/4Iqa4CoMciU?si=JFqDdVVxaS_WCr5W Follow Ros on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ros.nealon.cook/?hl=en