In this episode of SAUNAIE, “Past, Present, Pushback,” XO, AZ, and CDA dive into one of the most important conversations happening within the Black community today — Where are our leaders?
We take a powerful look at the giants who shaped our past — Malcolm X (1952–1965), Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. (1955–1968), Fannie Lou Hamer (1962–1977), Huey P. Newton (1966–1974), Angela Davis (1970s), and more — breaking down exactly what they accomplished, what made them leaders, and why their voices carried so much weight.

Then we examine today’s reality:
Why don’t we see strong political and social leaders with the same influence?
Has activism shifted?
Has unity changed?
Has fear, division, or the digital age diluted leadership?
Or are new leaders present, but we don’t recognize them?

This episode is built like a roundtable — real questions, thoughtful answers, and honest pushback. XO leads with tough, uncomfortable questions, while AZ and CDA bring educated, community-focused responses that break down history in a way everyone can understand.