We are covering our panel discussion for Chapter 21 in several parts and this is Part 4. There is much to discuss around Ouspensky’s concept of ‘false idols’ and the chief false idol may come as a surprise (or not – as the case may be). There is more discussion around the restrictions of language in describing any experiences of the ‘real world’ but Ouspensky gives it a crack none the less and our panellists are ‘picking up what he’s putting down’. We are on board all the way with Ouspensky in this part of the chapter (but that doesn’t stop Pete Lancett having the odd rant). To listen to an audio version of the chapter reading, see Part 1 of this episode and to listen to the panel discussion see parts 2 and above of this episode.