In this interview, Matt is joined again by Dr. Peter Kwasniewski—scholar, author, composer, and book publisher. In this conversation, they discuss the purpose of technology, what makes music beautiful, making time for prayer, the history of liturgical vestments, and good literature, among other topics. --- 📖 Jesus Our Refuge book: https://a.co/d/9gKN4eb --- Explore more from Dr. Kwasniewski through the links below: 🔹 Website https://www.peterkwasniewski.com/ 🔹 Tradition & Sanity Substack https://www.traditionsanity.com/ 🔹 Composer Page https://cantabodomino.com/ 🔹 Publishing (Os Justi Press) https://osjustipress.com —- 📚 Get my newest book, Jesus Our Refuge, here: https://www.amazon.com/Jesus-Our-Refu... 🍺 Want to Support Pints With Aquinas? 🍺 Get episodes a week early and join exclusive live streams with me! Become an annual supporter at 👉 https://mattfradd.locals.com/support 💵 Show Sponsors: 👉 College of St. Joseph the Worker: https://www.collegeofstjoseph.com/mat... 👉 Truthly – The Catholic faith at your fingertips: https://www.truthly.ai/ 👉 Hallow – The #1 Catholic prayer app: https://hallow.com/mattfradd  💻 Follow Me on Social Media: 📌 Facebook: / mattfradd 📸 Instagram: / mattfradd 𝕏 Twitter/X: / pints_w_aquinas 🎵 TikTok: / pintswithaquinas 👕 PWA Merch – Wear the Faith! Grab your favorite PWA gear here: https://shop.pintswithaquinas.com - - - - - Timestamps: 00:00:00 – Intro and Matt's new book 00:02:19 – Technology 00:16:53 – Is LARPing merely pretending? 00:32:56 – Why are people rebelling against modernity? 00:40:14 – Smartphones versus "dumb" phones 00:49:12 – We need to unplug and simply reflect 01:03:38 – The pollution of music 01:36:35 – How to do a distraction detox 01:44:47 – Book recommendations 01:49:51 – Giving up the internet and silent retreats 02:01:31 – Progressing in small steps 02:09:00 – Changes to the breviary 02:22:38 – Cuss words and swearing 02:39:15 – How should priests dress? 02:50:40 – A Church healing from liturgists Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices