With both dads battling hayfever, they discuss the all important day-night routine (officially called the circadian rhythm) and dealing with pet jealousy when your baby arrives. Plus, they finally get to talk about one of their joint passions - children’s TV shows - and they get quite vocal about which ones they love and which ones they’d rather never see again.

WARNING: Ottilie is struggling with a particular word and it’s leaving Lloyd mortified! In fact, this is actually our first explicit episode!