I don't care whose mouth conservatism comes out of, it's bad. Seems to me it's also the only option we have in the UK right now, being as everyone thinks it's simply marvellous and I'm fed up of this being the only perceived option.

Labour's current stances on things like immigration, NHS privatisation, culture war rhetoric, brexit- all are huge concerns to me, and whilst I'm not a fool and know that a labour government wouldn't be as much of a chaos filled train wreck as the radical conservatives with their stop the boats but not your cars tax dodging law breaking nonsense, I have to ask myself about the big policies we're being offered and how I feel.

An aversion to renegotiating brexit is a red flag- "temporary outsourcing" won't save the NHS and eschewing leftist voters to attract disenfranchised right wing voters who foam at the mouth for conservatism is a concern.

People are free to choose who they want to vote for, but if your defence of Labour is "they're just saying these things to win then they'll go back on it" I ask you what sort of meds you're on, because your plan is to vote for someone saying the opposite of what you want to hear and you're still going to vote for them..?

And if you expect that after labour has made myriad promises to disenfranchised cons voters to win, he'll go back on that and give you your centre left utopia, you're barmy. Now's the time for people with concerns about this iteration of labour to collectively impart a message about what sort of politics you want to see from them- if you don't do that, you won't get it and it's not because people like me are tory enabling by raising these issues- it's because you're letting labour dictate policy to you the same way the conservatives rattle on about the will of the people and what the public want, whilst doing precisely the opposite.