“And I’m still not your attorney.”
Focused on education, empowerment and entertainment, POPLAW is the podcast where pop culture, business, entertainment and law intersect.
Attorney and creative storyteller Desiree Talley explores cultural hot topics from a legal perspective through provocative conversations with industry executives such as Athlete and Entrepreneur, Brandon Marshall and Advertising Executive, Tope Ajala; Attorneys: Emeka Madubuogo and Ashli Jones-Mejia; and influential artists such as Actor and Recording Artist Algee Smith on real-life legal issues. Desiree and her guests dive into life rights, contract disputes, contract negotiations, copyright and trademark infringement, defamation suits, NDAs and best practices for negotiation tools and key contract provisions. Not to be confused as legal advice, the answer to your legal woes just may lie in episodes of POPLAW.
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“And I’m still not your attorney.”
Focused on education, empowerment and entertainment, POPLAW is the podcast where pop culture, business, entertainment and law intersect.
Attorney and creative storyteller Desiree Talley explores cultural hot topics from a legal perspective through provocative conversations with industry executives such as Athlete and Entrepreneur, Brandon Marshall and Advertising Executive, Tope Ajala; Attorneys: Emeka Madubuogo and Ashli Jones-Mejia; and influential artists such as Actor and Recording Artist Algee Smith on real-life legal issues. Desiree and her guests dive into life rights, contract disputes, contract negotiations, copyright and trademark infringement, defamation suits, NDAs and best practices for negotiation tools and key contract provisions. Not to be confused as legal advice, the answer to your legal woes just may lie in episodes of POPLAW.
In this episode, Desiree sits down with executive and entrepreneur John Pasmore, whose career spans finance, media, and tech—from running family offices to co-founding VoyageTV and launching the AI-driven platform Latimer.ai. His mission? Using technology to close equity gaps in education and opportunity.
Together, they dive into the intersection of A.I. and DEI, unpacking how algorithmic bias is impacting hiring, access, and fairness in a post-affirmative action world. From the Workday and iTutorGroup lawsuits to corporate DEI backlash, they explore whether tech can be trusted to fix the bias it helped create—and what tools and frameworks are needed to course correct.
Before getting into the legal breakdown, John takes on some rapid-fire questions—Isley Brothers or Gap Band? Sailing or swimming?—and even picks between ChatGPT or BlackGPT
Let’s talk facts, fairness, and the future of tech.
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POPLAW
“And I’m still not your attorney.”
Focused on education, empowerment and entertainment, POPLAW is the podcast where pop culture, business, entertainment and law intersect.
Attorney and creative storyteller Desiree Talley explores cultural hot topics from a legal perspective through provocative conversations with industry executives such as Athlete and Entrepreneur, Brandon Marshall and Advertising Executive, Tope Ajala; Attorneys: Emeka Madubuogo and Ashli Jones-Mejia; and influential artists such as Actor and Recording Artist Algee Smith on real-life legal issues. Desiree and her guests dive into life rights, contract disputes, contract negotiations, copyright and trademark infringement, defamation suits, NDAs and best practices for negotiation tools and key contract provisions. Not to be confused as legal advice, the answer to your legal woes just may lie in episodes of POPLAW.
