Freddy meets Louie and Ellie, a transgender man and a cis woman, who are trying to start a family.

But navigating fertility treatment as a queer couple isn’t always easy. And then there's the tricky business of choosing a sperm donor…which for Louie and Ellie can only mean one thing: it's spreadsheet time.

Freddy also meets Dev, who is trans and not too interested in parenthood. So instead, he decided to become an egg donor.

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Presented by Freddy McConnell Produced by Dasha Lisitsina Assistant Producer: Arlie Adlington Executive Producer: Russell Finch Sound Design: Phoebe Wang A Somethin’ Else Production for BBC Sounds