"If we're already whole, why does healing feel so hard?"

Aknes and I dove deep into this together — two practitioners who've walked our own messy, beautiful paths and now hold space for others on theirs.

We talked about how most of us are approaching healing backwards - as we are trying to add wholeness to ourselves instead of gently clearing away what's covering it up.

What if you're not broken? What if you never were?

The reason spiritual work sometimes feels like swimming upstream is because we're working against our nature, not with it.

Our voice, our body, our energy system — they're all trying to help us back to what we already are.

We just need to remember how to listen.

Aknes shared how she uses various tools in her practice — voice analysis, traditional sound healing, neuroscience-based approaches — while I brought my own experience of holding space for that recognition moment.

Together, we both opened up about the real moments—the heaviness we've each carried, the physical symptoms that became our teachers, that gentle shift that happens when we stop fighting ourselves and start listening to what's already there.

This is the heart-centered conversation between practitioners who've found their way to something deeper.