Subhraag and Hilde explore a wide-ranging conversation spanning the Hopi prophecy, sourdough bread, and the illusion of the “false rise.” They dive into anchoring the New Earth, quantum shifts from 3D to 5D, slowing time, Kundalini energy, and the sacred union of masculine and feminine. The discussion weaves through Hilma af Klint, Hilde’s book, Germany, Mary Magdalene as the 13th disciple, the control symbolism of 12, and the power of music and frequency — all while returning, again and again, to food, magic, and the beauty of enjoying the mystery… and yes, sourdough.