Join part 2 of our convo with Tatiana Schwirblat. She is the youngest of our family and we finish an intimate and wide-ranging conversation about navigating life's most challenging transitions. Tati take us through her personal journey of career pivots - from questioning her professional path to making bold moves and moving for love. You'll hear candid insights about the importance of standing up for yourself at work - those crucial moments when self-advocacy can make or break your professional relationships and career trajectory. Then Tati dives into the messy realities of maintaining long-distance relationships, exploring how physical separation tests not just love, but communication skills, trust, and the ability to stay connected when miles apart.  Throughout it all, the conversation weaves together themes of self-discovery, resilience, and growth. Her story shows what it truly means to love and commit - whether to a person, a career, or to the ongoing project of becoming who you're meant to be. It's equal parts vulnerable, practical, and inspiring. SHARE & REVIEW: If this episode resonated, please share with a friend or write a review. We would love to hear from you. Screenshot your share or review and DM us for a chance to win our monthly swag giveaway!FOLLOW:Refined & Unhinged: @refinedandunhingedRefine Social Club: @refinesocial.clubAli: @alistricklinJen Dryden Hess: @jendrydenhess The podcast by Refine Social Club Join our thriving community of open-minded, open-hearted women who are embracing the mess, the magic, and everything in between. Continue these important discussions, find your people, and attend exclusive in-person events—where podcast listeners become real-life connections. Join our list to stay in the know.