In this episode, Ali & Jen have their first official at-home sofa chat. They laugh about how differently they are wired and share some funny stories like the time when they ended up on another kind of sofa with a therapist to mediate. From dealing with Sensory Processing Disorder, to sneaking home to read before Work From Home was a thing to read, you’ll learn a lot about what makes them tick. Ali takes you through some highlights in the book she’s currently reading, Fortytude by Sarah Brokaw, a book that was handed down to her by Jen. A great read for anyone in their mid 30’s looking to approach aging with authenticity, courage, and grace. Ali shares some favorite excerpts including finding grounding in situations out of your control, acknowledging imposters syndrome, and a practical exercise for shifting your mindset with regard to body image issues.  SHARE & REVIEW: If this episode resonated, please share with a friend or write a review. We would love to hear from you. Screenshot your share or review and DM us for a chance to win our monthly swag giveaway!FOLLOW:Refined & Unhinged: @refinedandunhingedRefine Social Club: @refinesocial.clubAli: @alistricklinJen Dryden Hess: @jendrydenhess The podcast by Refine Social Club Join our thriving community of open-minded, open-hearted women who are embracing the mess, the magic, and everything in between. Continue these important discussions, find your people, and attend exclusive in-person events—where podcast listeners become real-life connections. Join our list to stay in the know.