On this episode of Relatable Wisdom, I had the honor of sitting down with Rachel Edmondson-Clarke, a leadership expert whose perspective on growth is both deeply personal and profoundly practical. Rachel shared the quote that’s guided her journey: “If you’re not growing, you’re dying or you’re dead.” We explored what growth truly means beyond the usual metrics of money or status. Rachel’s own turning point came after collapsing in her office—a moment that forced her to redefine success, prioritize genuine evolution, and embrace self-compassion. She revealed how growth sometimes means letting go, making space, and choosing discomfort over stagnation. Together, we dug into how “growth” can look like both adding and subtracting—reminding us all that the path to thriving often requires conscious decisions and saying no to what doesn’t serve us. If you’ve ever felt stuck or wondered how to invest in your own ongoing transformation, this conversation gives you the clarity and encouragement you need to keep moving forward—one small step at a time.
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Chapters
00:00 Introduction And Welcome
00:33 Meet Rachel Edmondson-Clarke
01:17 Rachel’s Favorite Quote On Growth
01:39 The Value Of Growth And Learning
02:35 Evolving While Staying True
03:27 Rachel’s Story Of Hitting Rock Bottom
04:11 Defining What It Means To Grow
05:32 Growth Zones And The Comfort Zone
06:18 Exploring Wisdom’s View On Growth
07:00 Growth As Both Increase And Decrease
08:06 Becoming Who You Want To Be
08:53 The Power Of Saying No
09:48 Creating Space For New Opportunities
10:35 What Dying Means Without Growth
11:59 No Plateaus—Only Growth Or Decline
12:18 Building Capacity During “Plateaus”
13:12 Closing Thoughts And Appreciation
13:42 How To Connect With Rachel
14:08 Final Reflections And Goodbye