Join the conversation on Instagram: @remopodcast In this conversation, Remo Ojaste and Eerik Heldna explore the concept of the one third rule, which posits that personal growth requires a balance of good, neutral, and hard times. They discuss the implications of this rule on individual development, national resilience, and military training. The dialogue delves into the psychology of overachievers, the dangers of idolizing them, and the importance of maintaining a balance between hardship and enjoyment in life. The speakers emphasize that while hard times are necessary for growth, they must be managed carefully to avoid breaking individuals or teams. The discussion emphasizes the importance of alignment between effort and desired outcomes, the significance of enjoying the journey rather than fixating on end goals, and the necessity of finding meaning in struggles. Ultimately, they conclude that happiness stems from living according to one's values and embracing the journey of life.