Join the conversation on Instagram: @remopodcast In this conversation, Remo and Eerik explore the complexities of leadership, intent, and morality. They discuss how understanding a person's intent is crucial in evaluating their actions, especially in controversial situations. The dialogue delves into the nuances of influence, the importance of humility in leadership, and the distinction between manipulation and genuine leadership. The conversation culminates in reflections on storytelling and legacy, emphasizing how narratives shape perceptions of leaders and their impact on society.