Lordship Salvation with Mike Abendroth

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Everyone has things they believe in. Somethings we hold dear and will fight for and other things we are really rather flippant about because we think they do really matter. We live in a world where truth and belief are often confused, for instance, some suggest strongly that we are to value the beliefs of others. While I would admit that we ought to listen to others to understand their given belief and do this with respect for those whose beliefs may differ from our own. This shouldn't suggest that just because one holds a belief there is value (or what Stephen Colbert has called "truthiness") in that belief. The fact is many people have and still do belief things that are wrong and even dangerous. A radical example of this would be the belief system of Hitler and how his ideas where realized in Nazi Germany. Most people would agree that Hitler was wrong and the beliefs he had were wrong and dangerous. We often, however, do not place beliefs that some hold about God and the gospel on this level -- of actually being dangerous. God is Truth. What God has said about Himself and who we are is of radical importance -- not because these things are believed but because of who declared them to be True. Our mission at RenewalCast.com is to be one resource (among many greater ones) in helping to ground your belief on Truth that is revealed to us by God Himself in Scripture.

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Lordship Salvation with Mike Abendroth

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9 minutes

1 year ago

Lordship Salvation with Mike Abendroth

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About the Guest(s): Mike Abendroth is a renowned theologian, pastor, and author, widely recognized for his contributions to the discussions on Reformed Theology and the doctrines of grace. With notable works addressing key theological debates, Abendroth has established himself as a thought leader in biblical and doctrinal studies. He is currently serving as a pastor and is known for his insightful and challenging perspectives on issues like Arminianism and lordship salvation. Episode Summary: Welcome to another enlightening episode of the Renewal Cast! In today's bonus episode, hosts Coalt and Jay delve into a fascinating conversation with Mike Abendroth, focusing on his critical views regarding Arminianism and lordship salvation. This episode promises to enrich your understanding as Abendroth meticulously deconstructs these theological standpoints, clarifying common misconceptions and offering profound insights into how they align with or diverge from Reformed theology. In this session, Abendroth addresses the core of lordship salvation, providing a balanced perspective on its implications. By distinguishing between outward-focused fiduciary faith and inward-directed volitional faith, he articulates why lordship salvation often leans towards Arminianism despite its proponents being predominantly Calvinists. This discussion is vital for grasping the intricacies of salvation theology and the nuanced differences that can significantly impact doctrinal teachings and personal belief systems. Key Takeaways:

Fiduciary vs. Volitional Faith: Abendroth emphasizes the critical difference between fiduciary faith (trusting in Christ alone) and volitional faith (submission, surrender).
Historical Context: He references the Marrow Controversy to highlight the historical debate on whether one must stop sinning prior to coming to Christ.
Arminianism Concerns: The guest points out that while many lordship salvation proponents are Calvinists, their calls to submit and surrender resemble Arminian teachings.
Sola Fide: The reformer's principle of faith alone (sola fide) is underscored as essential, with no preconditions for sinners to come to Christ.
Sanctification and Justification: The distinction between these two categories is crucial, where surrender and submission are relevant to sanctification rather than justification.

Notable Quotes:

"When we preach to people, we are telling them about who Jesus is… now we ask them… believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you shall be saved."
"Surrender, submission, yielding is something on me. So if I have to surrender my life in order to come to Christ, it better be perfect surrender."
"A little faith in the right Jesus saves. Perfect surrender in the right Jesus would have to save. But that’s impossible."
"It was the Arminians that had the response to the call of the work of Christ in a volitional category. What it had to do with my will. Surrender, submit."
"Sola fide is there for a reason. And that’s why I would say their calls are Arminian very often."

Resources:

Renewal Cast Website: renewalcast.com
J.I. Packer's Book on Puritans: "Quest for Godliness" (Recommended reading for further understanding the fiduciary and volitional aspects in response to the Gospel)
Facebook Page: Renewal Cast on Facebook

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