FOR REAL is a podcast on human dignity, made by Resonate Productions.

In this episode: female leadership - the dangers of the patriarchal system - conversations with men - sexist a priori - calling people out on their behavior.  

Recorded on 23 November 2024, Explore the North, Leeuwarden. 

(01:26) Minke [°1952 - Wolvega, Friesland, NL]: reflects on female leadership. "A leader who humiliates, is not a leader."

(05:13) Janneke [°2001, Wierden, NL]: "I am a musician, and technicians feel the urge to explain me where the ON-button is on an amp. Explaining me I am not holding my guitar correctly."

(09:26) Eva [°1989, Leeuwarden,NL]: "The patriarchal system is heavy and unsafe for everyone."

(12:55) Sytzke [°2003, a village next to Leeuwarden,NL]: "I feel the responsibility to be bubbly. Especially in conversation with men, I feel I need to make them feel seen. Women resonate with that. Afterwards, I feel really drained." And the secret of showing interest.

(18:55) Johannes [°2001, Oostende, BE] and Tessa [°1998, Woerden, NL]: about being on tour with a female technician, and everyone always addressing Johannes. "What can I do apart from using tricks?" Tessa: "Is it OK to call people out on their behavior? I wish people would dare to say: 'this is not OK.'"

(24:55) What do you deserve? "To feel safe, without being kept on my toes."

For each episode of FOR REAL, we get together with a group of people in a theater, to look into what it means to matter as a person. All interviews are carried by improvised music, made by George Dumitriu (viola, guitar), Sarah Jeffery (recorders) and Andrea Voets (harp).

Made by Resonate Productions -creating musical journalism-

Music & interviews: Andrea Voets, Sarah Jeffery, George Dumitriu

Sound engineer: Hayden Hook

Funded by: AFK, FPK, BNG, Cultuurfonds, Dioraphte

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