Wil talks with Anthony Hamilton of Icon Group Hospitality about building people-first restaurant businesses that last. They riff on digital minimalism (Wil’s flip phone!), presence with family, and the hard edges of hospitality—burnout, 24/7 crises, substance abuse—then pivot to how thoughtful leadership, balance, and systems can make the work sustainable. Anthony traces his path from CIA-trained chef to operator/educator to acquiring legacy independent brands and venues, explaining creative deal structures, venue-first catering strategy, and a culture that prizes productivity over performative “grind.” The throughline: lead with hospitality, invest in people, use simple tech well, and protect the soul of beloved neighborhood institutions.Key takeawaysPresence beats obsession: Ditching always-on smartphones can reduce noise and make you a better leader, parent, and human.Hospitality is holistic: Mental health, family time, and modeling balance are part of the job, not perks.People > spreadsheets: “Internal customers” (your team) drive guest experience; treat them with autonomy, flexibility, and respect.Productivity > hours: Question 50+ hour weeks; manage to outcomes, not optics.Predictive labor wins: Forecast sales, schedule to targets, and adjust—don’t try to “cut” your way out after the fact.Simple tech scales: Use lightweight tools (like scheduling/communications) your staff actually adopts; avoid bells-and-whistles bloat.Legacy brand stewardship: When buying independents, preserve what locals love while modernizing ops; owners are often the brand—honor that story.Creative deals keep doors open: Mix owner financing, profit-sharing, and note-holding to match seller needs and protect cash.Venue-first catering strategy: Securing exclusive/long-term venue leases reliably feeds the catering pipeline.Unreasonable touches pay back: Small, thoughtful gestures (a $60 video game + handwritten note) can lock in lifelong clients.Turnover is expensive: Retention beats replacement—paying an extra $0.50–$1/hour can save thousands in churn costs.Lead by example: Owners will always care most; don’t expect staff to out-hustle you—set the standard and the tone.