MBA student, Bogotá expat, and SaaS founder, Jonathan Bland lives for challenge—until his body calls timeout. He and Jolie explore stacking an MBA on a Colombian move, hitting burnout’s limit bar, and why listening to “early whispers” of fatigue saves careers. Key Takeaways• Stacking challenges is thrilling—until it isn’t.• Burnout whispers become screams if ignored.• Seasonal “push then plateau” cycles keep ambition healthy.• Listen to your body louder than your calendar.• Community wins multiply when ego exits the room. Timestamps00:06 – Intro: constant‑challenge personality05:28 – Colombia move & MBA juggle10:52 – Finding burnout’s limit bar15:59 – Early‑whisper body signals21:42 – Redesigning pace post‑burnout26:47 – Family priorities & boundaries32:17 – Push‑plateau strategy for goals37:19 – Community over ego lesson42:51 – Listening before crashing48:04 – Closing & LinkedIn tag LinksLearn more about JonathanLearn more about JolieLearn more about Revenue Mind