Competitive‑hockey grit and weekly therapy keep CMO Mark Huber sane inside VC‑paced growth. He and Jolie dive into blocking therapy like a board meeting, decoupling self-worth from the pipeline, and why voice-note walks beat Slack doom-scrolls. Key Takeaways• Therapy on the calendar is a power move, not weakness.• Outcome ≠ identity—effort is the real KPI.• Leaders destigmatize mental health by speaking first.• Voice‑note walks turn rumination into insight.• Humor keeps intensity sustainable in startups. Timestamps00:01 – Intro: therapy as strategic asset04:50 – ADHD superpower & pitfalls08:43 – Blocking non‑negotiable care time13:43 – Stigma vs. strength in leadership17:07 – Detach quota from self‑esteem21:55 – Voice‑note reflection workflow25:51 – Culture of open calendars30:31 – Nature breaks & perspective35:12 – Making therapy normal company‑wide39:18 – Outro & LinkedIn connect LinksLearn more about MarkLearn more about JolieLearn more about Revenue Mind