In this unfiltered episode of Rich Conversations, Rich sits down with Cousin Frank in the farm shed for a raw, late-night talk about life, purpose, and what it means to live well. The two dive into perfectionism—when it helps, when it holds us back—and how society’s obsession with comfort and convenience has dulled our sense of purpose. They explore topics like smartphones, discipline, consumer culture, and the quiet wisdom of “old timers.” From reflections on family and legacy to the loneliness of modern life, this episode blends humor, honesty, and philosophy in equal measure. Recorded by lantern light, it’s a reminder that the best conversations don’t need polish—they just need presence.