Selina Small - Engineering Manager at Fresho talks about switching careers into software development and growing into a leader. In this exciting episode of ScaleUp SoundBytes Sam sits down with Selena Small, Engineering Manager at Fresho. Follow her journey into software development, leadership, presenting & what it’s like to be a professional kick boxer juggling a career on the side. Selena flew into Sydney recently and shared the story of how she began her career in software development progressing quickly to the level and leadership role presently today. Selena attributes her success to a few mighty traits; hard work, interest in what she does, pair programming, caring and, most importantly, giving back to her community. Spending a lot of her time giving talks and presentations about pair programming & diversity through her side business "Failure Driven" giving these talks all over the world at RubyConferences and JSWorld Conference. Join the conversation through Selena’s background on how she not only got into development, but why! Selena left a career in hospitality to pursue a career into software development after a conversation with one of her regular customers while running a bar in New Zealand. Tech leaders do you want to know why pair programming is such a great method for advancing your teams capability? Aside from being a strong female leader in the tech world Selena had a strong career as a professional Maui Thai Kick boxer at the same time. Discover the parrels of the experience she had with training as a kick boxer to navigating her career from developer through to manager. It’s a great talk full of hilarity that gets uber personal at times. This episode has a bit of something for everyone but if you are looking to transition your career into software, especially female engineers looking for advice on how to succeed, it's a must listen. #ScaleUp # SoundBytes