Jonathan calls up an old timer to ask why he says "why isn't a spiritual question"—then consults his other old timer, ChatGPT (who has about two weeks of sobriety). Pasha shares his step two experience in rehab, how telling God he was angry changed everything, and the freedom of saying "I don't care why—I just don't want to die." Plus: why your internet filters might just be training wheels, and what happens when you surrender your career to God while lying on your dog's bed.