Shaggin' Flies with Ben and Zach Ben and Zach are joined this week by their Pitcher List and South Side Sox Colleague Chrystal O'Keefe (@chrystal_ok) for a delightful and rambling several hours that begins in Indianapolis, Indiana and instantly turns every which way imaginable.  --- 1 – Opening with Star Wars 7 – SciFis everyone should watch! 10 – Meeting the Firefly cast 14 – What to do in Indy 17 – The Chicago Bulls All Have Covid 21 – Name-a-Pacer 24 – Writing! 25 – Murder? 30 – Writing a kids book 34 – The great hot dog debate part 224 38 – Gino's East > Lou Malnati's 41 – Michael Ajeto once again finds himself in reference, this time for the crime of liking Malort 42 – Why baseball? 43 – Other sports don't have Tim Anderson. Also, family, writing, and Andrew McCutchen! 50 – Stadiums and food! 52 – Go to Pittsburgh and get a pierogi 55 – Churro love 1:03 – Ben messes up the Order of Operations Trifecta 1:06 – Field of Dreams sucks 1:10 – Toothpaste? 1:15 – A conversation with Carrie Fisher if we could 1:17 – A really genuinely unsettling ghost story 1:25 – Relitigating the windshield wiper self consciousness debate 1:29 – The Great Concert Wishlist (Nirvana, Prince, David Bowie) 1:32 – Writing advice: skip the replies 1:40 – Kids are weird and funny 1:45 – The Full Count! * Chrystal's Book Recommendation: Breath * Chrystal's Food Recommendation: Garlic and Breadsticks * Chrystal's Movies/TV Recommendation: Pen15 * Chrystal's Music Recommendation: The Metallica Collection * Chrystal's Miscellaneous Recommendation: Take Care Of Your Face 1:55 – Fading out to Miley Cyrus and Wayne Coyne Get PL+ and join our community!: https://pitcherlist.com/plus [https://pitcherlist.com/plus] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices [https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices]