In this episode of Simplest State, Ron interviews Dr. Robert Keith Wallace, a pioneering researcher on the physiology of consciousness. The discussion moves from subjective experiences of higher states of consciousness to their objective, measurable correlates in the physiology. Dr. Wallace shares his journey and groundbreaking research on Transcendental Meditation (TM) starting with his research at UCLA and Harvard, which demonstrated significant findings such as increased alpha brain wave activity, reduced oxygen consumption,  decreased blood lactate levels and decreased anxiety. He elaborates on how these changes reflect a unique state of restful alertness, differentiating TM from other meditation techniques. The conversation also explores the implications of meditation on gene expression, and the profound implications for overall health and longevity. Dr. Wallace reflects on his remarkable experiences with Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, and highlights the integration of modern scientific understanding with ancient Vedic knowledge. He discusses the growing interest and research in spirituality and higher states of consciousness and makes a compelling case for the continued objective study of subjective experiences. The dialogue concludes with thoughts on the future avenues of research and the importance of a healthy lifestyle together with meditation practice. Join us to explore how meditation enhances creativity, intelligence, and wellbeing, and its evolving role in modern medicine.     Music by Lesfm. Track “In the Forest”