Arno Kopecky (author The Environmentalist's Dilemma) on covering Tory leader Pierre Pollution Poilevere's vs. the environment, Canadian eco-politics and the Greens vs. Greens. When Pierre's not Trumpy. And when he is. And what he'll ask Pierre Poiliviere - if he ever gets to ask him a question. "He turned the carbon tax into kryptonite." Made in Canada
Shownotes:
4:25 On being the only journalist embedded with Canada's Conservative Campaign.
5:04 "It feels like a prolonged sort of Grateful Dead Festival festival tour meets the Freedom Convoy tour."
7:05 Pierre's greatest hits...
10:52 On making sense of conspiracy theories.
12:18 Why Pierre and the Tories won't talk to reporters. "For the most part the Conservative entire machine is all about message control... it is very Trumpy."
11:56 What Pierre Poiliviere doesn't want to talk about.
15:06 Where Pierre's not Trumpy. And where he is...
18:02 Why Pierre's declared the carbon tax public enemy #1. "He turned the carbon tax into kryptonite."
19:48 On Pierre not talking about climate policy, except to mock it.
22:53 "The NDP has always been in a bit of a tricky place around environmental policies."
23:40 The carbon tax is a very conservative solution...
26:16 On Mark Carney: "He's really quite literate on that file and he's built his career trying to convince the world's financial industries and bankers that climate change presents a massive existential threat to capitalism."
28:30 On Carney: "I don't think he's the hero that we need but... it was his choice to go to rooms full of bankers in the halls of power in Europe and beyond. And tell them, you know, 10 years ago. "Listen, climate change is coming for us and we need to address it." So I appreciate that."
33:30 "The Green Party of Canada has become invisible."
34:50 "It speaks volumes to me that a guy like Steven Guilbeault, who was arrested in 2001 [00:35:00] as Pierre Poliviere never tires of reminding us - for scaling the CN Tower and hanging a banner that said Bush and Canada are climate killers he was a Greenpeace activist, you know, literally as, as hardcore as it gets. Twenty years later when he runs for office, he doesn't join the Green Party. He joins the Liberal party and two years after that, he becomes the Minister of Environment and Climate Change."
36:25 "The Greens have slid into irrelevance... I think it's going to be a grim election for the Greens."
41:15 On voting this election.
41:50 What he'll ask Pierre Poiliviere - if he ever gets to ask him a question.
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