Irminne van Dyken is one of a rare breed in this world, she's actively trying to put herself out of business. It's so refreshing to me to hear from a surgeon who does not promote surgery as the best option in most cases.  I've had the great privilege to hear her speak a couple of times now at different events and get to know her and her husband Russell too. As a result I thought I knew mostly how this conversation was going to go before we started, turns out I was very pleasantly surprised! Irminne is a wealth of information on all things health and wellbeing. We talked about their journey to the plant based lifestyle and how this has affected her practice as a surgeon, we talked about how to avoid the surgeon's knife as well as one of my favourite topics, how to cultivate a healthy microbiome.  This conversation was refreshing and enlightening for me, I hope you enjoy it too! www.spudfit.com