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Sustain
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Sustain brings together practitioners, sustainers, funders, researchers and maintainers of the open source ecosystem. We have conversations about the health and sustainability of the open source community. We learn about the ins and outs of what ‘open source’ entails in the real world. Open source means so much more than a license; we're interested in talking about how to make sure that the culture of open source continues, grows, and ultimately, sustains itself.
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Sustain brings together practitioners, sustainers, funders, researchers and maintainers of the open source ecosystem. We have conversations about the health and sustainability of the open source community. We learn about the ins and outs of what ‘open source’ entails in the real world. Open source means so much more than a license; we're interested in talking about how to make sure that the culture of open source continues, grows, and ultimately, sustains itself.
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Episode 271: Maintainer Month 2025 with Kade Morton on Cybersecurity
Sustain
37 minutes 47 seconds
7 months ago
Episode 271: Maintainer Month 2025 with Kade Morton on Cybersecurity

Guest

Kade Morton

Panelists

Richard Littauer | Eriol Fox

Show Notes

In this Maintainers Month episode of Sustain, host Richard Littauer and co-host Eriol Fox talk with cybersecurity expert Kade Morton from Arachne Digital. The conversation dives into how Kade’s unconventional path through criminology and international relations led him into cybersecurity and open source. They explore the unique challenges of sustaining open source security tools, particularly for human rights activists and under-resourced groups, the tension between proprietary and open solutions, and how geopolitical contexts and human motivations influence modern digital threat landscapes. Hit download now to hear more!

[00:01:41] Kade explains his work is split between a day job working security operations and a startup he runs called Arachne Digital.

[00:02:51] Kade tells us about his background, how he got into cybersecurity through self-teaching and open source, and how his criminology and international relations studies informed his interest in cyber threats.

[00:05:17] Kade discusses the open source projects he maintains, specifically ‘Thread.’

[00:06:50] We learn about the difficulty of getting others invested in better tools and Kade discusses challenges explaining open source values to corporate environments.

[00:12:26] Richard asks whether closed-source software is more secure and Kade highlights how most real world exploits target proprietary software.

[00:14:57] Eriol brings up security perceptions in non-tech orgs using digital tools. Kade shares how Arachne Digital offers free services to vetted human rights orgs and he they discuss challenges balancing funding and access in human rights cybersecurity.

[00:19:17] Richard reflects on monetization models for sustaining open source cybersecurity. Kade explains his company avoids fear-based marketing and promotes awareness instead.

[00:22:40] Kade outlines how their threat-informed defense model works.

[00:25:42] Eriol asks what changes could help improve open source sustainability. Kade discusses feeling out of place in both government and open source spaces and emphasizes cross-pollination between sectors to reduce polarity.

[00:28:29] Richard introduces the concept of “digital sovereignty.” Kade warns of the risks of splintering the internet through nationalism and advocates for a balanced middle ground between centralization and fragmentation.

[00:31:41] Kade shares where you can find his work on the web.

Quotes

[00:13:44] “It’s mostly proprietary software that’s being hacked.”

[00:29:40] “The internet is the world’s largest shared resource.”

Spotlight

  • [00:32:56] Eriol’s spotlight is a repository called: The Design We Open.
  • [00:33:49] Richard’s spotlight is 1Password and Robin Riley.
  • [00:34:31 Kade’s spotlight is a shoutout to Mitre for TRAM and Justin Seitz who wrote a blog post on a project called, Searx.

Links

  • SustainOSS
  • podcast@sustainoss.org
  • richard@sustainoss.org
  • SustainOSS Discourse
  • SustainOSS Mastodon
  • SustainOSS Bluesky
  • SustainOSS LinkedIn
  • Open Collective-SustainOSS (Contribute)
  • Richard Littauer Socials
  • Eriol Fox GitHub
  • Kade Morton LinkedIn
  • Arachne Digital
  • Arachne Digital LinkedIn
  • Arachne Digital (Medium)
  • Arachne Digital (YouTube)
  • Arachne Digital (Bluesky)
  • Arachne Digital (GitHub)
  • Thread-GitHub
  • The National Digital Forum (NDF)
  • The New Design Congress
  • Open Technology Fund -Security Lab
  • The Design We Open (GitHub)
  • 1Password
  • TRAM
  • Searx

Credits

  • Produced by Richard Littauer

  • Edited by Paul M. Bahr at Peachtree Sound

  • Show notes by DeAnn Bahr Peachtree Sound

Special Guest: Kade Morton.

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Sustain brings together practitioners, sustainers, funders, researchers and maintainers of the open source ecosystem. We have conversations about the health and sustainability of the open source community. We learn about the ins and outs of what ‘open source’ entails in the real world. Open source means so much more than a license; we're interested in talking about how to make sure that the culture of open source continues, grows, and ultimately, sustains itself.